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Quick and Easy Tiny Prints with 0.4 Nozzle on Ender 3

February 12, 2020


On today’s episode I’m gonna print
really tiny on an Ender 3 and I’ll show you a setting at Cura for getting
more detail from a zero point four nozzle right here
on filament friday. filament friday is brought to you by these patreon
supporters. I found this curse of the Black Pearl coin on Thingiverse and I
wanted to print it out. I shrunk it down to like 50% of the original size which
made these thin walls really thin and the teeth and around the mouth I knew
this would probably be a problem. But I was gonna try it at a 0.4 nozzle
25% infill with my magic 0.2 layer height and just as I suspected the mouth
was missing parts the ring around the skull was completely gone and in some of
the curls around the edges were missing pieces. Actually it did a better job than
I initially thought when I printed. It did not look bad but those details are
missing. Then I remembered there’s a print thin wall setting. Its for models
which are horizontally thinner than the nozzle size. So you just enable that
And reslice. And when I did that all the mouth appeared, the ring around the
skull appeared although it looked just a little bit sketchy, but it’s there and
then the details on loops actually looked better too. And here’s the print
it looks a lot better. Now the print itself doesn’t look any better but the
details are there. In fact it prints a little bit rougher. So then I decided,
why don’t I just change the line width to0. The line width is what the slicer
tries to produce coming out of the nozzle. So it should match the nozzle but
you can actually go a little bit smaller. So I went down to a 0.3 and when I
sliced it, it printed all that detail but it didn’t look a whole lot different
because I still had the thin wall setting on. So some of the detail was a
little bit thicker but not a major difference. Then I decided to go all the
way and adjust it down to 0.2. Now Cura goes orange here to tell me that this is
like a violation. It’s it’s not what they recommend. But when I sliced it the wall
around the skeleton was much thicker. Some of the
detail looked better so I decided to just print it and see what happened. Now the
print is kind of rough so the flow isn’t right but it did print all that detail
just kind of like this slicer said it would. So then I figured I’d just go all
the way and change the nozzle so I’m gonna try a 0.3 nozzles first. Within cura from the drop-down menu i
chose a 0.3 nozzle and then changed all the line widths to match and then when I
sliced it. It looked like to 0.3 I did before but now maybe it’ll print
different with an actual 0.3 nozzle. So this one I decided to print even though
I didn’t print it before and this is the way it looked. Not too bad I wouldn’t say
this is great because I don’t have the flow settings right for a point 3 nozzle.
Then I decided to go 0.2 and the point 2 layer height is now a warning with a
point 2 nozzle which is right. But slicer wise it looked as good as the 0.4 with
that thin wall setting. But what about the actual print quality so I printed it
and here’s the result. And I can tell you the flow is terrible. Here it’s looking
worse so my profile is not working with the smaller nozzles. I would have to
adjust everything again. And then just for fun I brought in a benchy and I
shrunk it down to 25% of its original size so it’s really really small. And
since I had the 0.2 nozzle, even though it’s not flowing right I decided just
print 1 using that and then I’m gonna use a 0.4 nozzle and follow it up. Now
I thought the slicer would tell me you know parts of it aren’t gonna print but
it looked like the whole thing would print. So then I made a profile with the
0.4 as well. Everything 0.4. Thin-wall and sliced that. Now this looks a little
rougher than the 0.2 but the smoke stack looks rougher. There’s parts of it that
just are, I don’t know, sketchy. But it’s gonna be fun to compare these two prints. The two and see how they come out. I honestly was thinking these would look
like absolute garbage I was shocked how good they looked. Now granted these aren’t great prints but look at this compared to a size of an
American dime. They’re smaller and they both printed. 0.4 on the left and 0.2 on
the right. Neither is a great print but I’m amazed how good these are. They’re
smaller or about the same size as the nozzle that printed them and compared to
a regular sized benchy they’re like grandchildren. So this was a lot of fun
and I’m really shocked how good it printed. After trying out that setting
I’m really impressed with how well a 0.4
nozzle prints on an Ender 3. And in fact I did not think these benchies would
come out when I started this. I thought I’d actually get blobs. To get this much
detail from a 0.4 nozzle on Ender 3, I’m really impressed. In fact you
could print your own monopoly pieces with this and they’d be acceptable. Now I
know I didn’t show you how to get really good prints with a 0.2 nozzle but the
fact is I tried a lot of different settings. I even tried other people’s
profiles and I couldn’t get much better than I was getting with the 0.40 and that
thin-wall setting. So if I need better prints than this I’d probably go with
one of those low-cost resin printers. You can get one of those for about three to
four hundred dollars. And it’ll print a lot better than this. But for most jobs
where I have to print a little gear a little knob or something or just some fine
detail? The zero point four nozzle with that thin wall setting, I think it’s
gonna cover about 90% of what I need. If you like what I’m doing here maybe check out some of the other videos that are popping up if you want to help support
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63 Comments

  • Reply Snap-On kid February 1, 2020 at 12:15 am

    Nice!

  • Reply Joey Echols February 1, 2020 at 12:16 am

    Nice

  • Reply Guat Agel February 1, 2020 at 12:17 am

    Nice!

  • Reply ifell3 February 1, 2020 at 12:23 am

    Your relentless, I think you should go back over the kama sutra 🤣🤣🤣

  • Reply MC's Creations February 1, 2020 at 12:25 am

    Pretty impressive, man! 😮
    Fantastic!!!

  • Reply Randy Barnes February 1, 2020 at 12:30 am

    So good! Your videos always remind me of Norm Abram from New Yankee Workshop, clean and concise.

  • Reply FilmFactry February 1, 2020 at 12:32 am

    Is there any negative effect, leaving THIN WALL setting on always? Print time etc?

  • Reply Paddzr February 1, 2020 at 12:40 am

    As someone printing with only but .2 nozzle, the difference is day and night. It takes proper tuning but if you want miniatures? .2 nozzle is the only way to go.

  • Reply FIREFIRE CPB:- Advance Beyblading February 1, 2020 at 12:47 am

    I tried same thing a while ago. It worked well for me too. I'm really looking forward if you ever create a proper magic profile for 0.2mm nozzle. I had ordered a pack of nozzles which contained everything from 0.2mm to 1mm nozzle.

    BTW can keeping Thin Walls checked all the time can cause prints to be a bit rougher?

  • Reply Karl Moran February 1, 2020 at 12:54 am

    Would the equalize filament flow setting in cura help with the flow problems? It says it has something to do with printing thinner walls so it might help. Great video btw!

  • Reply Paul Cumber February 1, 2020 at 1:01 am

    that cool

  • Reply Coophack6584 February 1, 2020 at 1:14 am

    Good i have an Ender 3 for D&D figs

  • Reply Ben Hazard February 1, 2020 at 1:18 am

    Chep, please make a vid reviewing bigger nozzles and bigger prints. Thx.

  • Reply mylightbulbmoments February 1, 2020 at 2:27 am

    Upgrade the firmware to marlin 2.0.x and enable and calibrate linear advance. This should help.

  • Reply cdashdashb February 1, 2020 at 2:32 am

    Thanks CHEP, I'll be trying small prints soon so this video is timely.

  • Reply John O'Shaughnessy February 1, 2020 at 2:46 am

    Great reminder that you can print SMALL with just a little work. I have seen some gorgeous prints from 0.2 nozzles and small layer heights that seemed to rival resin prints. Thanks, Chuck.

  • Reply ItsAlreadyRendered February 1, 2020 at 2:53 am

    With my stock Ender 3 I've used a 0.2mm nozzle to make D&D minis and you'd be surprised by the detail. However I didn't change the flow setting.

  • Reply bat man February 1, 2020 at 3:09 am

    Good settings for small prints. I even tried 0.05 layer height, it works amazingly.

    Only problem i can't fix is demonstrated in your 25% Benchy 4:04. The Smokestack bottom half is Yellow and the lines are not circular, unlike the Red top half. If i could work this out i'd be set for tiny tiny prints with 0.4mm nozzle.

    Any ideas how to get the yellow zigzags into nice red circles with the 0.4mm nozzle?

    Lastly, i'd love to see a future video with 'How to set Flow' for 0.2 line width with 0.4 nozzle. Would be very interesting as i'm a beginner and learn so much from these videos.

  • Reply 3D Medic Vince February 1, 2020 at 3:11 am

    Chuck, I've been using a tip of your's for a long time now of setting the line width to 0.39 in S3D to print thin walls. Its helped a lot with getting detail in some prints I've done when using text.

  • Reply Wm Gilliland February 1, 2020 at 3:28 am

    With a 0.2 nozzle you need to use a 0.08 layer height for ultra fine detail. Run your temps about 5*-10*C hotter for better flow through the 0.2 nozzle. I print mini figs with a 0.2 nozzle using, pla, abs(looks the best, as it hotter material hides the layer lines better), and PETG.

  • Reply Arturo Guerrero February 1, 2020 at 3:56 am

    Thanks CHEP

  • Reply Lithophane Maker February 1, 2020 at 4:13 am

    I was concerned for that poor little Benchy's life when I saw it between your fingers lol

  • Reply Asger Vestbjerg February 1, 2020 at 4:47 am

    Interesting test
    Thanks for sharing👍😀

  • Reply Charliebrm1 February 1, 2020 at 5:09 am

    To summarize, where in this clip are the settings that did best with the 0.4 mm nozzle? Or just print them here please. All those change ups shown briefly on screen got me lost.
    My current challenge is a pinion gear of 11 mm diameter, with 10 teeth. Several tries and the teeth profiles are mostly OK from the top view but rough along their Z length of 10 mm
    I have only 0.4 mm nozzles. Filaments available PLA, EcoPlus PLA Premium, TitanX Industrial ABS.

  • Reply BR R February 1, 2020 at 5:10 am

    Can you make more A10 videos like a cura profile tips and tricks stuff like that thanks!

  • Reply Daddicated February 1, 2020 at 5:15 am

    CHEP, that’s amazing what these 3d printers can do compared to the original davinci you started with. It’s nice.

  • Reply YesUCan February 1, 2020 at 5:29 am

    Hey Chep, I like your nozzle tool. Got a link? Nice vid as usual. I use a 0.2 nozzle and have a hard time going back, lol.

  • Reply YesUCan February 1, 2020 at 5:32 am

    Chep, when you get a 0.2 dialed in, give me a call, lol.

  • Reply Ghosts of Omega February 1, 2020 at 6:16 am

    Honestly, the default CURA settings for Ender 3 work best for me, manage to print everything from minute to large with excellent detail without issue. Only thing that messes up my prints are the temperature changes where I live

  • Reply Marcio Kouyoumdjian February 1, 2020 at 7:13 am

    What about Simplify? can you show somenthing with 0.2 nozzle too?

  • Reply bare nekid February 1, 2020 at 7:32 am

    Interesting exercise certainly. But small use for charm bracelet prints.. especially crappy ones.

  • Reply DriverSteve February 1, 2020 at 7:35 am

    What is this fascination with the benchy? Can you not come up with anything else to print? You should try something new sometimes! I didn't buy a 3D printer to print out benchys! LoL!

  • Reply TheFryPo February 1, 2020 at 7:53 am

    You definitely should try miniature print profiles, they have great settings dialed in for small prints. And also for 0.4 nozzle.

  • Reply Ziddan - February 1, 2020 at 9:07 am

    For flat stuff like that coin you can leaning lean the print at a 45 degree angle with the detailed side up, add support on the back and often get a better quality on the details, combined with the thin walls setting i think you would get a slightly better result but with a bit of filament wasted on the support.
    You will have of course have layer lines on the "top surface" but if its a mean to be flat you can then lightly sand it with some fine grit sand paper laid on a flat surface to get something that is quite good.

  • Reply Medyk3D February 1, 2020 at 9:17 am

    Amazing! I need to experiment with 0.2 nozzle. I assume it will be harder to dial in the settings than with 0.4.

  • Reply Andrew Le February 1, 2020 at 9:22 am

    Can you do a follow up on this using an airbrush nozzle?

  • Reply TCG Therapy February 1, 2020 at 1:02 pm

    I always have print thin walls on

  • Reply Deerhunter102 February 1, 2020 at 2:03 pm

    You should try contacting a Youtuber called 3D Printed Tabletop, he prints a ton of small miniatures and has some guides on Cura settings for printing small things with finer detail.

  • Reply Andrew B February 1, 2020 at 2:06 pm

    I have printed that coin in bronze fill , If I remember rightly the instructions state to print it vertically ,I did that with a brim to stop it falling and it came out great, this effectively gives the details the layer height resolution of around 0.8 to 0.1.

  • Reply Garrett Butler February 1, 2020 at 3:45 pm

    PREPARE FOR MY NAVY OF TINY BENCHIES

  • Reply Vernon Leeper February 1, 2020 at 5:07 pm

    Did you get the ffg low right?

  • Reply Afmu Warden February 1, 2020 at 5:32 pm

    What about setting lower printing speed for 0.2 nozzle?

  • Reply Vinay kumar samudrala February 1, 2020 at 6:26 pm

    I am using two ender 3 printer's
    In one of my ender 3 printer is failing to print correctly in layers 7 to 15, it's giving a rough texture.

    I have followed all the guidelines to fix it even i have re assembled it.

    I upload same g.code in both rhe printers one is printing clearly and another is failing produsing, printing rough nozzle movement marks over the job.

  • Reply Mr. Baskins February 1, 2020 at 7:45 pm

    WHERE DID YOU GET THAT NOZZLE WRENCH??! That looks super easy to use and way better than everything else I’ve tried

  • Reply Mark Michalowski February 1, 2020 at 9:14 pm

    How does the "print thin walls" option in Cura actually work, Chuck, 'cos I'd be interested to know?

  • Reply Tomcat R February 1, 2020 at 9:29 pm

    For a nozzle of 0.4 mm, the layer height is normal 0.1-0.2 mm. For a 0.2 mm nozzle, the layer height is 0.05-0.1. The nozzle was changed to 0.2, and the layer height (for the nozzle 0.2) was left too high 0.2 (from the nozzle 0.4). It is not right. I print on the nozzle 0.2 mm with a layer of 0.04-0.06 mm. For very high quality parts. Naturally, you need to select print speed and retract.

  • Reply GeorgeGraves February 1, 2020 at 9:53 pm

    Those look horrific.

  • Reply Buck Nasty February 2, 2020 at 12:04 am

    Do you ever use Simplify3d?

  • Reply Likely Lilly February 2, 2020 at 2:06 am

    Chuck, I was looking for a setting like this on a small 3d house print as the cura slicer was removing the fence and the gate, granted this will have some quality issues but its way more forgiving than alot of software to hardware translations. This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you.

  • Reply Nerys February 2, 2020 at 5:05 am

    keep working the 0.2mm nozzle profile. you can get exceptionally high quality prints with a 0.2mm nozzle. use really good filament !! it really does help.

  • Reply Matthieu Simard February 2, 2020 at 6:28 am

    Neat

  • Reply Chris Valin February 2, 2020 at 8:27 am

    Why didn’t you play with the flow to fine tune your prints?? You mention it but then didn’t do anything about it.

  • Reply Rafael Estevez February 2, 2020 at 8:35 am

    so just print thin walls ??that's it ?

  • Reply sophocha February 2, 2020 at 9:22 am

    I was having great success with lowering the flow to 95%.I could even print fine details; even with a 0.6 nozzle on a 0.2 layer width and height! Basically because I'm using a 0.6 nozzle 90% of the time for my big prints, I tweaked my profiles so that I could use a 0.6 nozzle for both small delicate prints AND big prints without changing my nozzle down to a smaller one.Impossible? Not! Something to consider for your future videos. A single nozzle with two profiles for both large and small prints!

  • Reply Bernard Tarver February 2, 2020 at 11:28 am

    4:54 looks awesome; way to go.

  • Reply A_Disciple February 2, 2020 at 6:17 pm

    I just got my ender 3 pro setup, did a benchy and it came out nice. I did a gecko and it came out good too. For some reason though when i print a cylinder like a vase or rocket it is covered with little bumps. Any flat surface is smooth but round surfaces are covered with little zits. Any ideas why? I am using your magic profiles for reference, maybe its a setting i missed? Thanks a bunch!

  • Reply keith twombley February 2, 2020 at 11:53 pm

    Did you also play with the nozzle size in the machine profile? Maybe I missed it.

  • Reply FLSheepdog February 3, 2020 at 12:26 am

    What video is it that showed how to get rid of the poor corners and surface finish of the chep cube? I distinctly remember Chuck discussing a slicing profile that prevented this, but cannot find it in his videos. Bonus points for a link. Thanks in advance!!!

  • Reply R Forde February 3, 2020 at 9:04 am

    Any suggestions for the best foot for a 3D printer to reduce vibration/noise of the printer.

  • Reply Vishal Pai February 4, 2020 at 2:26 am

    Please don't change the model stl in the middle of the video. Just threw me off on what you were trying to achieve with that model. I did not get what the crux of the video was.

  • Reply Tbah February 4, 2020 at 6:43 pm

    I have a question I have a 3d printer but it broke it says it's at 300c but it is cold I tried replacing the heating element and temp sensor but it didn't fix it

  • Reply Chris Rennie February 7, 2020 at 11:26 am

    so. How do you produce tiny prints with a 0.4mm nozzle?

  • Reply Rob Leroux February 7, 2020 at 1:37 pm

    I gave in and finally bought an ender 3. I'm a guitar luthier/builder and every time I see these 3d printers, i see endless possibilities on making custom parts and pieces. Also its gonna be far more cost effective to print out back plates, pick guards etc. Once it says guitar on it, it instantly cost more. A 4x4in plastic plate can be up to 50 bucks. And I could do it on here for next to nothing. So getting a printer went from being a good idea to a no brainer. So with how cheap the ender 3 was and all good reviews…I now have my 1st Ender 3. I've watched a bunch of your videos and you seem very knowledgeable in all things 3d. So although this has nothing to do with this videos content. It was the most recent. The ender 3 seems to be pretty good as it is but I'm sure theres several little things that can help greatly. I've seen theres tones of printable upgrades but I'm looking to buy what upgrades are new up to date no printables. Alot of the stuff seems fairly inexpensive so I'm gonna put in order and get anything that's gonna make it as good as cheap can be. So are there things I should absolutely get and what are they. Just looking for expert opinion and you look the guy lol

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