Articles, Blog Should YouTubers Quit Their Day Jobs? February 13, 2020 9-5 jobBrooke Micciocommentarycorporate jobfull-time youtuberHelloKatyI quit my jobI quit my job to do youtubeinternet analysisKaty BellotteMichelle ReedNatalie Barbuquitting my jobself employedTiffany Fergusontiffanyfergvideo essaywork from home Aiden Rath 100 Comments Reply tiffanyferg February 11, 2020 at 1:58 am * captions are being made, they should be up soon! * hope you guys enjoy today's dive into work, careers, the commodification of our lives, etc!!TIME STAMPS BELOW:0:00 – intro0:46 – some "big" creators balance a full-time career + youtube (like Simply Nailogical)2:20 – is quitting your career to focus on youtube irresponsible?3:45 – should we risk trading a secure job for an unstable one?4:40 – what is life after youtube?5:34 – should we prioritize in life? our careers? happiness? money?6:47 – sponsor moment!7:59 – youtubers who have recently quit their 9-5s to become self-employed / full-time content creators (Brooke Miccio, Natalie Barbu, Katy Bellotte, & Michelle Reed)10:55 – how did their viewers react?12:22 – losing relatability14:25 – are 9-5 jobs undesirable?15:08 – "follow your dreams! if you're not happy, just quit your job!!"17:30 – privilege, advantages, & luck19:00 – does this all make 9-5 jobs look bad?19:56 – tangent about my personal work preferences and ~entrepreneurial spirit~22:04 – what about when other youtubers quit their jobs? (such as Jarvis Johnson)23:25 – how does quitting affect your content?24:39 – productivity content good, hustle culture content bad!!25:14 – too many sponsors! too many ads!26:08 – the struggles of being a youtuber27:41 – strangers have opinions about your personal life29:15 – oversharing, boundaries, and selling your life as content29:54 – "How To Do Nothing: Resisting the Attention Economy" by Jenny Odell31:12 – don't get stuck in the YouTube Bubble34:35 – thank u goodbye Reply Dusty February 12, 2020 at 8:15 pm Girl, $200 a month on YouTube is a lot. Reply Madie Mento February 12, 2020 at 8:16 pm I literally JUST published my own article about this today lol… I was physically taken aback when I saw the title of this video this morning. Check it out if you get a chance: https://www.hercampus.com/school/hofstra/why-youtubers-are-quitting-their-day-jobs Reply Jordane Lamarche February 12, 2020 at 8:32 pm How come no one seems to mention the fact that 9 to 5 are raaaarely 9 to 5 ? Dunno how it works in the US, but I have a 9 to 5 in France and I'm lucky if I can get home before 8 at night and be actually done with my day. There are a few things in that video that made me roll my eyes (nothing against you personally, love the vids, great insights and all) such as "when you're a full time content creator, your work is never over, you can't just leave that "at work"". Well 9 to 5 don't always give that possibility either. More often than not, I work, then I get home and think about work. Then go to bed and reflect on my work and what I need to get done. Then sometimes dream about work. All of that for probably twice or three times (if not muuuuch more) as less as Youtubers who still find a way to complain about their lives. Like… come on. No. I'm currently spending most of my awoken hours either terminating people or thinking about how to reorganize teams to reduce headcounts and then how to terminate the people. Being a Youtuber full time is a privilege that far too many youtubers take for granted and still find ways to complain about it. If I'm being honest, I've always felt that influencers and such are making huuuuge money on literal void (kinda like the Kardashians that everyone seems so prompt to criticize all the time) and therefore do not get to complain. Ever. Because that is not a job, it is a trend, period. Reply tinmanlover1994 February 12, 2020 at 8:36 pm A couponing channel who I follow her ad sense got hacked she's been a YouTube for a long time she has a 9-5 job and children. Her money is all gone. That o w reason to not put your eggs in the YouTube basket cause one day it will just be gone with your cash and you won't be able to do anything about it. Just lien the start of the year a lot of toy channels quitting YouTube cause of coppa rules they did t get slot of Adsense like before so they quite cause of the YouTube rules with toys and craft channels. I have always done it as a hobby I have never trust YouTube cause they change rules all the time. I'm disabled I don't upload hardly I've been a YouTube for 11 years I am glade it's a hobby cause I'm seeing things on the commountys I am apart of with the videos I myself film it's getting to were people are quoting YouTube and not coming back and getting a real 9 to 5 job cause YouTube is going under. Reply Maddie H February 12, 2020 at 9:04 pm I really don't care if people quit their jobs, I'm just against people making videos like "working a 9 to 5 for a day CHALLENGE" cough Ace Family cough Reply Alexandra Phillips February 12, 2020 at 9:20 pm I think the problem with a few YouTubers you mentioned in this video were in the wrong jobs and didn't like the job, not necessarily the concept of working. I think if you find the right job it can make a huge difference. Reply Jilli Bean February 12, 2020 at 9:20 pm wooohoo! Half a million! Keep it up gurl Reply Blair Witchdorf February 12, 2020 at 9:21 pm I love my 9-5. I don’t care for the work. I actually couldn’t be any less passionate about the work I do, but I love the stability and I love the money. Work is work, and I view it as something nobody really wants to do but just what we have to do, like paying taxes. I love my 9-5, because, actually my office lets me flex my hours and set my own schedule essentially, as long as I arrive anywhere between 6am and 9am and work 8 hours. And knowing that I can come in everyday and sit at my nicely decorated desk, work off a spreadsheet, hit my numbers, and go home and relax is okay with me. I really thrive on routine. Reply Aina February 12, 2020 at 9:31 pm I'm a millennial. I don't have a 9-5 jobs, but I do have a job that most people consider very difficult and boring, and pays tremendously well. I also enjoy doing artsy things, as do most of my friends who also have "boring" jobs. It is a great life! I mean, there are hard parts about my job, but I get to go home and spend the money I make on things I love. I get to travel in my spare time. I don't always have to look at the right side of a menu to decide what I want to eat at a restaurant… It is perfectly fine to follow your passion. It is also perfectly fine to go for that boring corporate job. I think the one thing it is not perfectly fine to do is to be jealous or "hate" the person who made different choices than you. If you are not willing and able to do what they do, don't begrudge them for doing it. Reply Alex Murillo February 12, 2020 at 9:33 pm Any 8am-5pm people out there? 🙋🏽♀️ haha but in all seriousness I think that if it was working at a corporate job or making money on YouTube if all people on this earth didn’t have to have jobs to make a living then we’d all quit our jobs and YouTube would be very different. I think we won’t see any negatives side effects about people quitting their jobs for YouTube in about 5-10 years when something else is relevant. Reply I’m Panicking At the Disco February 12, 2020 at 9:38 pm some kid at my friends school dropped out of 7TH GRADE to make YouTube videos. and it wasn't even a public school, it was a two day a week school and you did the rest of your schoolwork at home. now he has 200000 subs but he makes toy videos and when he is 30 what is he going to do for a living? Reply Katie Johnson February 12, 2020 at 9:51 pm I love Aja Dang, her debt free and budgeting content is awesome! Reply Katie Johnson February 12, 2020 at 9:56 pm I love this video. It is very thought provoking! Thank you! Reply Tahlia February 12, 2020 at 9:59 pm anyone who wants to do youtube fulltime should realise that it is imperative to have multiple streams of income – to create something reliable out of the instability of youtube. invest in rental properties, start a business, sell services, or have a backup degree/work experience. youtube has been around for about 10 years and we've already seen the uprising and the downfall of so many youtubers (especially the british crew! what are zoella and marcus butler doing now? you have no idea, right?)youtube is a simple job for creators with passion (although of course it has its difficulties), but it can be a fleeting one too. Reply Malia Sarkody February 12, 2020 at 10:11 pm I love when I’m watching a video about YouTube as a job and it goes to deep thoughts about what you really want in life Reply Massiel Morales February 12, 2020 at 10:20 pm I like being an employee lol buuuut my main gripe is the schedule. I work 9-6 but sometimes I have to be home for ex: the repairman is coming, the dog is not doing well, I gotta go to doctors. It's really annoying because not all positions have the option to work remotely. My position requires me to be onsite. merp. I'm an ambivert… more extroverted than introverted and I like the daily socialization. it also depends on how big the company is because the smaller the more close-knit you are but benefits aren't as good. the bigger the company the better the benefits (not always), and more options for work friends. lol in a little company fewer options and not always compatible. love you lots. Reply Lady Elexia February 12, 2020 at 10:27 pm I have been self employed as a freelance writer for 12 years, it is not easy at all. I hate when people say "you are at home all day, you are not really working like the rest of us", like what? working for yourself means that you often have to work 20 hours out of the day, you cant take time off, and everything falls on your shoulders. Full time Youtubers are in the same boat I imagine. Reply Narwhal February 12, 2020 at 10:40 pm Personally I’m worried for the creators and the stability of their Youtube careers given how you hear how hostile corporate is to creators nowadays… Reply sanaslikey February 12, 2020 at 10:42 pm I'm one of the people who likes having a 9-5 job! I need the stability and routine, when I have time off I can always feel myself spiraling because there's nothing to get me up and around. I also desperately need human interaction every day, and even though I know that about myself I think if I was self employed and spent most of my time in my home I just wouldn't make myself go out and meet people. Also speaking of losing relatability, I think a lot of people just feel irritated because quitting your job to "focus on youtube" is such an out of touch thing, a lot of people don't love their jobs/aren't working in passion fields/are also working multiple jobs, and they can't just quit because they don't like it. Reply Alyssa Blackford February 12, 2020 at 10:51 pm In that same boat, does being a drug dealer constitute as a job? Someone would be making money from it. Obviously being a YouTuber and a drug dealer are way different things but if we’re using that logic of if someone is making an income, then that makes it your job then would that make drug dealing a job? Or is what makes it a job is that you have to fill out a W2? It all depends. To me, if we’re categorizing a job solely based on something you make a living off of, then no I don’t agree that youtube is a real job. But if we’re putting other factors in it, then maybe. Reply Martin Brooks February 12, 2020 at 10:58 pm All the best for your future. Reply Alyssa Blackford February 12, 2020 at 11:06 pm My concern with everyone wanting to be a YouTuber now adays is what if doctor’s or lawyers or nurses start to dwindle down? Med school or any university schooling is insanely expensive, so it’s appealing that you can potentially make so much money without having to pay a tuition like going to YouTube. It’s a huge concern of mine that these important jobs are gonna have trouble finding people to do them Reply Jessica Drake February 12, 2020 at 11:14 pm You deserve money for your time- PLEASE keep doing sponsored content. You deserve it. I can suck it up for a whole 30 seconds, Reply Sheridan Tully February 12, 2020 at 11:16 pm Not enough people talk about the disadvantages of monetizing your passions! Even at my 9-5 as a graphic designer I get burnt out. Work failures feel like personal failures because it's my self-expression that people are critiquing. Reply Ali Lorraine February 12, 2020 at 11:29 pm I’m not sure what being a full time YouTuber even means. It’s risky and not scalable as a stand-alone career. Same with podcasters. If you’re successful as a YouTuber it’s because people find you relatable and resonate with your content. I have a hard time finding full time youtubers will stay “relatable” and follow a trajectory of success when they aren’t doing things that viewers are in terms of every day jobs, experiences, struggles. I personally find it hard to support and respect people’s content when they don’t have any type of niche or substance. I have no stake in this. If you’re making enough money to do it like David Dobrik I’m not sure why you wouldn’t take advantage of that luck and opportunity…. but I personally will not follow youtubers who just vlog their same day, every single day, with no substance or niche or content that’s helpful or entertaining to viewers. Reply Favour Thegreatest February 12, 2020 at 11:33 pm You are so smart Reply Gianna Ross February 12, 2020 at 11:34 pm Tiffany Ferg you are so smart and incredibly aware..I feel like I'm on the brink of the future when I'm watching your videos. Like I feel like your videos will be so much bigger than we are realizing in this moment ughhhhh! Reply Vianey Cardenas February 12, 2020 at 11:40 pm Clancy Burke actually has many amazing videos!! I love that fact that she takes you into the world of being a news reporter and uses her job to make some pretty awesome content. Reply Francesca Read February 13, 2020 at 12:36 am This video helped me SO much, as someone who recently began creating content (on a different channel) I've had that inner conflict, at first I was just using it as a fun hobby, but it is ALOT of work to create these videos (gaming) albeit fulfilling but having been out of paid work for a year I have felt that tug of, what is my foundation? Even though I'm doing what I love, it is tough day to day to meet the basic needs, and I definitely run into 'workaholic' syndrome more than I ever did at a 'normal' job. I definitely want to go back to the 'work' sector while pursuing my passion as more of a heart based project as I want a solid foundation that is long lasting and dont want to put all of my eggs into one basket. And yes, it is easy to become a complete hermit! You gave alot of valuable perspective in this discussion and I am thankful 😊🙏 Reply Elena Webster February 13, 2020 at 1:24 am It’s also about how you word it on a resume. “Self-employed” gains more respect and it’s true Reply Haley Justino February 13, 2020 at 1:34 am Just got my first 9-5 in cubicle-land, and yes it's somewhat underwhelming as I am not horribly passionate about the work. I of course hope to one day have a job that fulfills me on a deeper level. But that's why I'm thankful for my built in weekend time (that you do NOT get in food service jobs) which I take advantage of to appreciate my hobbies deeply.I am, however, greatly enjoying the newfound security of health benefits, work hour consistency, and I am very excited to use my PTO. I have never ever been paid to not work before lol Like anything, there are pros and cons. And I have to remember that I am still SO young, this is not my forever career and that's ok! Reply Megan Wicander February 13, 2020 at 1:36 am as someone who works a corporate public accounting job where for 4 months of the year i am working 55-60+ hours a week with no overtime and i have only had my job for 1 and a half years, the part that bothered me the most was that these girls had these amazing, solid careers and gave up within the first year. some of them worked straight 9-5s where they didn’t work extra hours. i get that they felt obligated to post consistently, but they had 6 hours other than the ones they worked to work on things. i don’t think that’s undoable. it comes of to me more of “omggg adult life is sooo hard. my entry level job is soooo hard” and it comes off entitled. Reply Abigail de Niverville February 13, 2020 at 1:37 am Sewing is my non-monetized hobby too. It's (mostly) relaxing and satisfying.As a writer, my dream is to be able to make money full-time on my books. But I've got a long way to get there. The 9-5 helps me stay financially stable, but still have energy to pursue my writing and other projects. Lately I've been feeling very restless about it, though. Even though I'm progressing in my writing career, there's still a lot of waiting involved. It gets frustrating. This was an interesting watch, and I could apply some parts of it to my own situation. Reply Lilith Nastasia February 13, 2020 at 1:43 am they should maintain a healthy balance of average dependable income and make room and time to also dedicate to making youtube which i consider a hobby but at it's most successful, still a lucrative hobby. otherwise the content will suffer and betray the point of trying to make good or genuine content and additionally i will be judgemental of anyone who manically makes it their only focus or sourced income. Reply Bianca Beeanca February 13, 2020 at 2:26 am Even if they quit their job they beed to maintain CONSTRUCTIVE hobbies where they are learning or challenging themselves to try and avoid burning out or getting creative blocks Reply Alyssa Greenberg February 13, 2020 at 2:34 am Of course people who love their 9-5 job are NOT making YouTube videos. They ALREADY have a job …! People don’t spend time & money on YT videos for nothing …. it’s to make money Reply Paige Dumas February 13, 2020 at 2:51 am First off I love this topic. Second, sometimes I feel guilty that I love working a stable 9-5. I don’t think I should live and breathe my job. I punch in. Enjoy my work as well as I can. Go home and find fulfillment in my hobbies and friends/family. I’ve worked so many labor intensive, part time gigs that barely pay the bills. Getting a job that I can grow in and KNOW will fund the lifestyle I want is what makes me happy, not necessarily the kind of work I’m doing. If that makes sense. I also don’t like how people look down on folks that are actually content with a desk job. Like not everyone wants to be their own boss. Some of us just wanna clock in. Clock out. Get a check. Go have fun outside of work Reply Kimberly Cudjoe February 13, 2020 at 3:27 am Me, watching this at 11pm. A doctor. About to film and edit a video for YouTube before going to work for 8am 😥😥😥 Reply Cruelty Free RV February 13, 2020 at 4:19 am I have had very flexible jobs/work from home/ contracting jobs. I even lived in my RV and traveled for two years while working around the country. And now I’m in a 9-5 office job. And I’m much more suited for the 9-5!!!! I love the social aspect of having coworkers. I love the paid time off and paid benefits. You give up much of your free time, yes. But I love working in the corporate world! You just have to work up the ladder to get a good salary, that’s a bit of a slog through the mud at first. Reply Hello February 13, 2020 at 4:47 am I feel like when we think of a typical 9 to 5 job, we think of school, where we're sitting in one spot all day doing work. This obviously is not something we want and so when given the opportunity to choose a job, millennials/genz are more inclined to chose something different than what they've been exposed to Reply Delaney Beaudoin February 13, 2020 at 5:03 am Lol I love the product placement of the Bernie sign 👏👏👏 Reply Deny Rodriguez February 13, 2020 at 5:12 am I work a non traditional 9-5 and personally I love my job. I have an BA in General Psychology and currently pursuing an MA in General Psychology with an emphasis in ABA. My job title is a Behavioral Technician. I work with children with autism in home and at school to teach them how to “behave” Depending on the age and where on the spectrum they are I can teach them to appropriately request things or how to make appropriate conversations even how to act in public or how to order things at restaurants. It’s a real fun job that’s also super tough but incredibly rewarding. We work the 9-5 hours but it’s not in an office it’s at school, in home, and even in the community. I also model on the side as a way to keep my creative juices flowing. 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It also helps a lot with general business experience, you can learn so much from your coworkers and can accumulate more skills. Reply Cereal head February 13, 2020 at 8:03 am I feel like the reason millennials/ gen z seem more dissatisfied with the idea of 9-5 office jobs than older generations is because of the fairly recent idea that your job should be a part of a dream. Throughout the 20th century, the idea for most people was simply to graduate high school, get a job, and begin to work your way up the corporate ladder. Your job and your life goal were entirely separate things, so there was less pressure to feel fulfilled or inspired by your career; for most jobs. Whereas now, because of the job market being so oversaturated and competitive, and with people on average having higher levels of education (i.e having put more time money into trying to have a career), jobs and dreams have been rolled into one. So when our 9-5 corporate jobs don’t satisfy us in the way we had hoped, we’re more likely to turn to self-employed, leap-of-faith decisions like being a full time Youtuber. Reply Kaila Flowers February 13, 2020 at 8:54 am I love your makeup! Your eyes are poppin’ Reply Nyssa February 13, 2020 at 9:13 am What is the difference between pursuing a career (like Physician Assistant) and having your off time be your free time vs being an “Influencer” / YouTuber who is constantly editing, responding to media, photographing, filming even in their free time. I feel a “real job” can be a 9-5, but their free time is their’s but a social media job can be a 24/7 job Reply Catta Bonata February 13, 2020 at 10:34 am i really don't mind when youtubers have sponsorships, but i do mind when they promote really sucky stuff just to get money Reply ALI February 13, 2020 at 10:53 am depends on the type of work you are doing. Some 9-5 jobs make you feel like you are doing progress and other feel like you are stuck . So yeah i do both , and that balance makes me feel better about the no development jobs . Plus i am from a poor family so most people like me , we have to balance both Reply Extremotional February 13, 2020 at 10:57 am An app for groceries? Yes, were do I sign? All human robots out there , let's gather together. Reply Angela Mitchell February 13, 2020 at 11:30 am YOUR OUTRO WAS FROM THE BIG COMFY COUCH??? Reply Anne Westra February 13, 2020 at 11:34 am I think some youtubers should watch out to not get socially isolated by just being in their own house making youtube videos by themselves as a job Reply Warchief Peebs February 13, 2020 at 11:53 am I love my 9-5. I I YouTube once or twice a week and stream. I have kids, and I'm main provider. I wouldn't break the 9-5 unless I make 6 figures Reply Christopher Das February 13, 2020 at 11:59 am The real question is: Should Youtubers quit Youtube? Reply Louise Cole February 13, 2020 at 12:13 pm I might be a rare young person who wants a 9-5 Mon-Fri job. I really dislike the "gig economy" or jobs that don't have set working hours, and I hate working weekend shifts, for example, so 9-5 is appealing for that reason. Reply Barbora T February 13, 2020 at 12:17 pm i personally much prefer working a 9 to 5 to being self employed and I think it's sad that it's so looked down upon these days. You can still better yourself and achieve a lot while being employed under someone. This "freedom" that everyone says comes with being self employed is just not worth the stress for me, I'd much rather concentrate on my craft and let other people handle accounting, insurance etc. for me. Reply Chelsea S February 13, 2020 at 12:19 pm I don’t mind you tubers quitting their day jobs. HOWEVER, I think this works mostly with you tubers that have a speciality on the platform (ex: gaming, beauty, design, comedy). The girls you showed are all people I would consider ‘lifestyle’. Before the quit their largest selling point was the college or work grind and they primarily made videos with work weeks, meal prep, what I wore today with my 9-5. When they quit their job, what content do they really have? If they do those videos now it is just different. There is a certain level that other people can no longer relate to because they can’t stay at home to cook nice meals, or take a break at Starbucks, work out in for the morning, or maybe sleep a little extra one day when they are tired. I personally lost interest in these people because I no longer really got anything from the content. I think lifestyle you tubers really need to consider what audience they have built first and consider finding something more unique to hold them or find a new niche. Reply Kiera Pietrangelo February 13, 2020 at 12:39 pm I work a "9 to 5" job (not literally 9 to 5 but 8 hours a day, 5 days a week) and don't hate it. Funny enough, I'm working on building myself in my actual passion (not youtube but music) so that I may someday quit my job for that. I'm making sure I don't quit too soon though so in the meantime I actually love my regular desk-like job 🙂But that's probably because I majored in mechanical engineering knowing I loved that field and now I'm working in it while in a very great work environment (creativity is encouraged and work life balance is important???). Reply Letsalltakeawalk February 13, 2020 at 12:48 pm A YouTuber I know talked about how they'd quit their jobs for YouTube and I was so proud of them. It was v sweet and pure. But then life and the youtube algorithm suckerpunched them in the face. It was 💔 Reply Killake Cat February 13, 2020 at 12:49 pm You Tubers is need to be realistic, not fantasy, no don't quit your job, because who knows what is future holds, or life is comes bad ways or good ways unexpectedly, just ın case, you are all need prepare, youtube is not here forever, there is nothing gives you guarantee, you are need to survive somehow. Reply No Go February 13, 2020 at 2:00 pm I never believed youtube is a stable job to do. some day youtube is gone end and something new or a new platform will come. now the biggest problem is people quit there carrier to become a youtube is soo stupid. people young and old see the youtube life and they want it to but no body realize that most of the fulltime youtubers are very depressed and have a burnout over time. its not easy to be with yourself all day everyday day and night. with a real job you wake-up early(yes its healthy to wake up early) and get ready for you job and see other people everyday and than come home and do whatever you want to do because you can stop your work AT work. social media and youtube ruined the "classic" going after you carrier outside your house and work hard for it. people now think that a normal job from 9 to 5 is boring. NO in fact it gives you structure, stable income, self-esteem. really if you stop your school or carrier you are very very stupid and it will come and bite you someday. Reply Olivia Douglas February 13, 2020 at 2:05 pm I always believed that if you want to pursue YouTube, don’t abandon your current studies. Try to complete your schooling and then jump on the YouTube path. That career won’t last forever so it’s best to have a good education behind your belt. Reply Boko February 13, 2020 at 2:05 pm Who wants to work 9-5? That sounds so miserable, and makes me want to shoot myself Reply Flora Beltaine February 13, 2020 at 2:28 pm I love a 9 to 5 job. As soon as my foot's out the door, nothing about my job exists anymore. I consider this a privilege. Plus I'm so lazy at home I can't muster the strength to change bedsheets, let alone film and edit a whole ass video lol Reply Palito de la Selva February 13, 2020 at 2:44 pm Right now my dream is a 9 to 5 job at a desk. I gave up on whatever thing I want to do, at some point money ends up being the most important thing,( and you have to be super lucky to work alone) but it takes some people many years to learn that. Reply babyjenks93 February 13, 2020 at 3:34 pm Coming from a country with a 41% unemployment rate for under 40s all of this just sound sooooo irrelevant… But I love you Tiffany, as always you make me think 😀 Reply Margot Lee February 13, 2020 at 3:35 pm As someone who is graduating from college this May and starting to think about navigating my post-grad life, this was so helpful!! You always have such great insight and I always appreciate how much work you put into each video. Now to do more thinking about my future …….. 💭 Reply MischkaScotch February 13, 2020 at 3:49 pm Honestly, I wish I had a 9-5 job. I am a musician, and while sometimes I do enjoy my job, I crave a stable schedule. I wish I could go out in the evenings… have dinner with friends, go get happy hour, but I cant. My schedule is so piecemeal and has me working pretty much all day and into the evening, between teaching, performing, and practicing. Then there is the fact that my passion/hobby is also my job. It is starting to cause me to burn out, and not really enjoy playing anymore. I am seriously thinking of completely changing my career, and looking for a more 9-5 so I can actually spend my free time actually enjoying my passions. Reply TessaDorito February 13, 2020 at 4:20 pm I work a normal 40 hour a week job and I LOVE editing and filming my videos, but even a SMALL ass content creator like me, it Is hard. I deal with anxiety and there are just some weeks that I stare at my video in iMovie cuz I just need to relax. Just as hard as it is for me to muster the energy to go out and have a social life, its just as hard to put that energy into editing. Living paycheck to paycheck is also hard for sure, cuz there's legit the lack of motivation to even produce content when I'm in a negative headspace. But I will say, when I feel good, I enjoy making videos so much. And even on the days that I feel like I'm forcing myself to film and edit, I end up loving the product and am happy about it. So its not all bad 🙂 Reply J Marie February 13, 2020 at 4:24 pm If there's a movement away from 9-5's I'm excited to graduate and get myself one 😂 Reply kate February 13, 2020 at 4:33 pm If i made money from a youtube channel I’d also want a career even if it was just a weekend job as it’s extra money! Reply mallory hynes February 13, 2020 at 4:56 pm I'm 25, work a corporate 9-5 (although I technically work 8-4) and I love it! I love the routine, the pay is good, my work environment is positive and my management/co-worker relationships are great. I think it just comes down to personal preference. In my spare time, I love to be creative. I love to read, play piano, do puzzles, do yoga, play video games – but those are my hobbies. I think if I made them my job, it would take the value out of them for me. I love that I get to go to work and problem solve and work super hard all day, and then I can come home and live my personal life and relax completely separate from that. As much as I love (watching) YouTube, being a Youtuber or "influencer" honestly sounds like my worst nightmare. From what I've seen, ESPECIALLY with daily vloggers, there is little to no separation between work and personal life. I don't think that's healthy for anyone…plus, it just seems silly to not have a backup plan. People love to romanticize the risk but it's no fun not being able to pay your bills/being in debt. (Although I will say a lot of these influencers are younger, so they probably don't value stability as much as someone in their late 20's, early 30's might. I've especially noticed that nobody seems to think about retirement, which they really should. A time WILL come when you're too old to work and it's important to be able to live comfortably and survive when that happens, especially if you end up widowed/decide not to marry and have to depend on a single income) SO yeah, I think being an inflencer full-time CAN work, but it needs to be something the person is cut out for, and they need to have a backup plan. That's just my opinion. Reply Nyanfacington February 13, 2020 at 5:12 pm The complaint I have for the ads is not quite "there's too many" because, yeah get that income, dude. My complaint is that I see 6 ads on a 10 minute video. Thats an ad around every two minutes. How do you keep interest with that? Especially when now it's two ads or more per ad break? Reply Caitlin M February 13, 2020 at 5:32 pm I love my 9-5 job. I just have to work a part time job on top of it because of my huge loans. I wish that I had the option to just work one job. Reply Roberto Blake February 13, 2020 at 5:40 pm This is a very important topic. I know many YouTubers who have full time jobs with 100K-1M subscribers. And many run a full time business outside of YouTube the way I do. YouTube is also isolating. Creativity should not become a chore. It’s often a very difficult lifestyle to keep up with for a lot of people. Then there is the shelf life of being relevant. 3-5 years after your peak is what is normal. Oh and most people don’t stay frugal and refuse to live humble and invest their money. Matt Pat did a presentation on building a YouTube Exit Strategy at an event. Reply michellebelledejour February 13, 2020 at 6:27 pm Simply Nailogical is definitely one of my favorite content creators because she encourages education. Education is important and for the majority, we need something to fall back on. I could never do YouTube as a job because it’s not a reality for me and it’s not reliable source of income. Especially if you don’t succeed at it. With the rate of how fast technology and trends comes and go, viewers are can also be very fickle. There’s also the issue with some YouTubers becoming less reliable. Some viewers can stray away because of that. Reply Paola González February 13, 2020 at 6:29 pm I think people dont se doing youtube as a job, is because you (the consumer) are not paying anything for the videos you are watching and that can be confusing.like how are you making money if i am not paying to youi know that the ads and sponsorships but it feels like impersonal. yeah, i dont know Reply Ryan Zlatanova February 13, 2020 at 6:34 pm I love my 9-5 job! I used to work jobs/internships that many people would probably find super exciting – I interned as a gorilla keeper at a zoo, led kids' field trips and summer camps in super awesome nature parks, took care of a preserve's animals.. but I didn't like those jobs a whole lot. They just weren't for me. I always thought that being a Zoologist, loving nature would mean I'd love working outdoors and being out there all the time, or being near animals for a living… But I didn't. It was exhausting and I didn't fee like I was having the kind of impact I wanted to have. I realized I can still love being in nature and around animals, but in my personal time, as a hobby and recereation and maybe I can volunteer here and there. I work for a big conservation non-profit now and love working at an office, love all the meetings and my time behind a computer, love running a social media account, love helping organize events… The only part about my 9-5 that's hard is that I live kind of far from work now that I'm in a big city and the commute can be really exhausting. But I feel much more fulfilled in this career track and I can still love going to the zoo or a park whenever I want outside of that. Reply Feather Moss ASMR February 13, 2020 at 6:36 pm I’ve been debating this cause it’s getting so hard to balance. I have several channels as a way to diversify my revenue, and having a Patreon makes it hard too because I have a monthly obligation to them Reply Claire Michelle February 13, 2020 at 6:39 pm I VERY much want to hear a video about 9-5s etc. I’m in my 3rd year post graduating and have had three jobs. One was horrible, one was great but then I had to move (and ultimately knew I wouldn’t have stayed there much longer anyway), and am back in a bad job situation. I’ve been applying and interviewing non-stop since June. But as job hunting tends to be a full time job, I find it’s easier to stay with a horrible job than it is to take time off/work extra long days just to interview for a potential better opportunity. I find I do feel held back in my “typical” job. I would love to work a part time job plus a creative side hustle or entirely dedicate myself to starting my own business, but I am dependent on myself for health insurance, paying rent, etc. Anyway, I’m not totally sure what direction you want to take your video in but I’m so interested to see it and would love to help out if you need anything! Reply Simply Nailogical February 13, 2020 at 6:52 pm oh hi… holo there!! Very interesting analysis Tiffany I like your approach! I hope more young people listen to thoughtful perspectives like yours on topics like this 🙂 Also, disclaimer: I am a proud member of the pro 9-5 jobs team – if you find one you like and that is worth it for you! I happen to love mine. If I hated it, my life might be a different story. Anyways, good video and lots of commentary to provoke further thought. Maybe I will discuss in more detail on my channel one day. Thanks for inspiring and making people think 🙂 Reply Megan Below February 13, 2020 at 6:56 pm I love that we are still calling day jobs 9-5s. I think we mean 8-6s. At least. Reply Gina Lambert February 13, 2020 at 7:02 pm Actually, you can put yourself on your resume as a freelance content marketer….because that’s what it is. Once you start marketing other brands through sponsorships or affiliate or insert whatever thing here through your content, that is content marketing in a sense. Then no resume gaps. Reply Brangäne Wolf February 13, 2020 at 7:12 pm I work a 9-5 job in publishing, which I love. But I still got caught in this hustle culture bullshit and thought I should monetize my hobbies as well and sell my hand knit stuff. So I opened an etsy shop and the minute it went live I really really didn''t enjoy knitting anymore. I think while enjoying your job is important, maybe some things should just stay hobbies or you really monetize your entire being. Reply rockgiurl February 13, 2020 at 7:23 pm It's funny hearing that millennials don't want 9-5 office jobs when so many (including myself) DO want that. I'm changing career paths and where are these 9-5s? Where's a job I can go to, and come home? All I want in regards to work is something that allows me the time and money to do what I like OUTSIDE of work. Reply In Need of a break February 13, 2020 at 7:24 pm Gen z here I'm 17 in uni and I hate the idea of an office corporate environment but i guess that when it comes to stuff like business and the marketing and economics and stuff. So i went into nursing and being a student nurse in a hospital is a lot , but,i prefer the 3 day a week schedule i work and i can do nights cause my ward is pretty small . I also like how i have a safety net since the job will always find me work . Reply Carley Love February 13, 2020 at 7:36 pm Currently watching this while I do freelance work! I work two jobs between an office job and freelance. I just graduated with my degree in December. There are soo many options out there it's mind-blowing! Reply Driving Sports TV February 13, 2020 at 7:53 pm Today, YouTube is a nice piece of our income, but not the total business. When I was 18, I started my company doing freelance design work. In my 20s I had a 9-5 job but even then I had a lot of latitude to do whatever I wanted and I focused on marketing, which led to landing a contract to publish magazines for a regional tech giant. That was spun into launching my own automotive magazines by my early 30s. That branched out into events, which I eventually sold. By the time YouTube came along I saw the possibility to use it as a media platform that would out-do magazines and we became a Partner in 2007. Even by 2012 the ad $$ simply wasn't there yet. So I pivoted to re-build our video series focused on international broadcast, which we did for several years until YouTube finally became a viable business direction in 2017 at which point I started producing YouTube-specific content. All this while, I still maintain a small roster of large clients that we produce for doing work very similar to what you see on our YouTube Channel. Some are national brands and others are even bigger YouTube Channels. What I'm trying to get to is this; even if you focus on YouTube, you have to look at it like a business. For the past 20 years I see myself as having the same job: I create automotive-focused media that gets distributed to a consumer audience. The details about how that's done changes, but the approach to surviving and thriving are exactly the same. So long as YouTube is approached as one piece of a complete business, there is every chance of success in the long term (but like any business, there will be ups and downs and you will work more than 60 hours a week.) Fun fact: the company I run today is essentially the same one I started when I was 18 and later this year I'll be turning 48. Reply Liz Ruth Wilson February 13, 2020 at 8:50 pm my ideal situation would be to work part-time and do youtube the rest of my time. It is SUPER difficult to do high quality youtube videos and work full time, have a social life, get 8 hours of sleep and also look after yourself. I like the security of my job and I don't want my degrees to go to waste, but I'd be lying if I said I loved the company I work for – it's got quite a toxic work culture and I'm frequently expected to stay late or skip my lunch to get things done which I think is, unfortunately, the norm for a lot of businesses employing young people at the beginning of their careers. I have nothing against working a 'real' job, I think the problem is the lack of truly great companies to work for – a lot expect you to sell your soul or at most, they're just okay. I work in marketing so doing youtube and blogging before that has actually helped me get jobs in the past, but I'm yet to find a company/brand I'm actually passionate about. Reply Mindy Larke February 13, 2020 at 9:20 pm I just scrolled through your old videos and found your "talking with my past" video. If you ever felt like it I think it'd be really cool if you made a response now to see how much you've changed. Reply maryplethora February 13, 2020 at 9:39 pm I am currently working a 9-5 job because it is required for me to get my professional qualification, which is pretty much required for me to go back to academia, which is what I want to do. I don't necessarily mind the 9-5 life, but my current job doesn't light my fire for quite a few reasons (little flexibility, client facing, and my job is literally making rich people richer which… no thanks). I am really excited to eventually hopefully be able to do what I want to do, which is teach and research, although I've got two and a half years left in my current job. I'm hanging in there! Also, briefly, on the topic of monetising hobbies and sewing; I am firmly resisting and will keep sewing for me and only me (and maybe some loved ones)! Reply ohh tae February 13, 2020 at 9:52 pm I’ve been juggling YouTube, a job, and college for years and booyyy is it a struggle. It’s fun keeping YouTube as a hobby because I can do it on my free time. I think if i went YouTube full time I’d be lost in the views and clickbait to try and make a stable income. I’ve definitely considered it, but it’s is not stable. Like at all. So it’s all up to the person I believe if they want to take that on. Reply Keren Chalfont February 13, 2020 at 9:57 pm Could you make a video about how you keep track of your finances and how you budget? Reply Megan Kebless February 13, 2020 at 10:10 pm I also think that the negative comments about quitting their jobs for the girls mentioned stems from making a 9-5 job part of their brand, gaining followers from it because it’s more relatable, then quitting because they don’t actually like it. We feel lied to. They pretend to love it, then say they hated it. Don’t make it your brand if you don’t like it. Reply Posidilia February 13, 2020 at 10:15 pm I would love a 9-5 office job. Retail is killing me and they dont give me enough hours. Reply lana February 13, 2020 at 10:39 pm Classic gen z struggle. Spend the majority of our lives having rich influencers and socialites shoved down our throats, and we think the only two paths in life are getting lucky on Instagram/YouTube and being a millionaire in our 20s, or working a ‘boring office job’. I also spent my first year of college in existential despair. I knew I liked psychology and literature, but thought I could only be either a therapist or struggling writer, and both sounded unappealing. After a few semesters of classes, career fairs, and talking to professors and advisors, I found a passion for neuropsychology and decided to become a researcher and professor, and to write as a hobby. I’m now driven and excited for my career. I kind of wish all these apps would stop existing so we’d all be forced to look outside and find pleasure in life again. There is so much you can do that is fulfilling and isn’t just getting paid for drinking smoothies in LA, or being stuck in an office. Ugh. 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