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Vinyl-Disc – Vinyl & CD combined

February 14, 2020


Have you ever noticed these novelty CD-Rs? That are supposed to look like Vinyl records It’s quite probable you haven’t, because not many people buy CD-Rs nowadays I only picked these up to demonstrate them here in this video But I do think they look quite neat Of course, this is the record side You flip it over, normal CD-R on the other side But they even go as far as having a raised ridge on the record side that you can feel as you rub your thumb over it But of course, there’s nothing recorded on there However, somebody had a similar idea ten years ago, that actually worked On one side was a compact disc, the other side was a vinyl record and they called it Vinyl-Disc and, lets have a look at one The format was introduced in 2007 and was only used for a handful of releases The disc that I’ve got is the first one that came out by the group Fightstar It’s been signed by the group on this sleeve as well and it’s still in it’s cellophane It’s a CD single We’ve got three tracks on the CD side and then a separate track on the vinyl side Now of course, because it’s a standard CD size that means the vinyl side of the record is smaller than your traditional 7 inch, 45rpm record and therefore it’s played at 33rpm to be able to have enough space on it to fit up to approximately three minutes worth of music Now in the centre of the disc there is a foam disc which is blocking up that hole we’ll need to push that out to be able to play it in a CD player but we do need to keep that because it’s important I’ll show you why in a second Now you can see here that the centre of the disc has nothing recorded on it on the vinyl side it’s only around the outside edge that there’s any music Of course the CD side just looks the same as any old normal Compact Disc Although it does feel a little bit thicker Now the size of the hole in the centre of a compact disc is of course different to that of a Vinyl record and that is where the little foam disc comes in because the centre of that can be punched out which leaves a hole in that and effectively it gives you a little foam washer that you can put in the centre of the disc to make it the right size for going over the spindle on a standard vinyl record player Now whilst I’ve got an automatic turntable I’ll have to operate it manually because of course the disc is smaller than a standard record So it wouldn’t put the arm down in the correct place So I’ll need to manually place it down very carefully at the outside edge of the disc Unfortunately the automatic return mechanism on my turntable was activated before the track finished playing and that’s down to the size of the disc You see on a standard 45 rpm there is a bit of run-out groove before the end of the record where the arm moves in to and then returns On this tiny little disc Even though the track is recorded on the outside edge some of that still goes into the area that on my standard record would have been in the run-out groove So, when the arm gets to that position it says ‘Hold on, record’s finished’ and goes back to the beginning So really, this tiny little disc would only work on a fully manual turntable Now as far as the compact disc side goes Well there’s nothing unusual at all there It’s just a traditional compact disc, put it in a normal CD player Press play, and it works the same as any other Although, I’ve got to say this isn’t really my favourite genre of music Vinly-Disc was introduced in 2007 as a sales gimmick They weren’t even sure anyone would have a record player to play it on I was wondering would it be more successful of it came back nowadays given the resurgence in sales for vinyl I’m not too sure I still think it feels very much like a gimmick The vinly side didn’t sound very good I think those grooves are very closely packed together But the main issue I had was trying to get the stylus down at the start on the lead in on the record Because it’s such a small lead in It took me a lot of goes to get it just right So I still think this is something that’s perhaps best left in 2007 But it was a little bit of fun and I hope you enjoyed watching a video about it and as always Thanks for watching

52 Comments

  • Reply The 8-Bit Guy January 27, 2017 at 10:14 pm

    Neat intro! You need to do a video explaining how that was made!

  • Reply thescreamingfish February 1, 2018 at 1:44 pm

    I'd love t see your take on Enhanced-CD. Maybe go over the history of the gimmick and show us some snippets.

  • Reply John Loeppky February 9, 2018 at 7:40 am

    "This isn't my genre of music"
    Scoffs and starts banging head

  • Reply AlexR2648 February 11, 2018 at 10:12 pm

    They had to specify that the silver side was the CD???

  • Reply MS MMS February 12, 2018 at 3:36 pm

    1000th

  • Reply KRAFTWERK2K6 February 20, 2018 at 10:17 pm

    I prefer Vinyl CD-Rs that are black on both sides. Had a bunch of EMTEC Vinyl CD-Rs once and it was sooo disappointing to see the data side looking like any ordinary CD-R. I agree, this CD-Vinyl hybrid really looks a nice techdemo & feasibility study but is actually rather useless with that narrow groove and short playtime.

  • Reply Pietro Gagliardi February 25, 2018 at 1:49 am

    Off-topic: Italian record label Dischi Ricordi did at one point release a bunch of remastered music CDs with similar replica-vinyl labels to the one at the beginning of the video. Of course, they weren't actual label replicas (the "label" part were a solid color and only contained the artist and album name), but still.
    My family has Lucio Battisti's "Emozioni" and "Amore e non amore" in this form, but I imagine more were made. (In Battisti's case, in 2003 a box set was released of new remasters that actually recreated the vinyl labels in the full size of the disc, so so much for that.)

  • Reply Dubious March 3, 2018 at 11:08 am

    I recently got a box full of cd's and I came across something that is called a 'Shape cd'. I have never seen one of those. The one I've got is from M-M's – Sings The Blues volume 2 and the cd is actually shaped as a blue M and M. If you're interested please see Google. I don't know what I'm going to do with it but it sure is a nice novelty to have. Grtz from Holland (apperently they were made in holland in 1997)

  • Reply ConfusionFusion March 9, 2018 at 8:49 pm

    Amazingly informative and entertaining video as usual. I do wonder how you find your subject matter though. Are most of your subjects items you remember from growing up, or do you research past tech and take suggestions for most of your videos?

  • Reply JR March 20, 2018 at 5:46 am

    that's pretty cool

  • Reply db05 March 26, 2018 at 4:46 pm

    my mom actually got something like this in a TV Guide magazine that had a tribute to elvis in it. I forget what 2 songs it had but it was essentially a 45 single on one side and a CD single on the other.

  • Reply Spanky Pants March 26, 2018 at 11:16 pm

    ZOMG IT'S SEGA GENESIS WISCONSIN

  • Reply Kalhi Balto March 27, 2018 at 11:42 am

    heh am i the only one that noticed the tracks where named after NGE? NERV/seele and shinji Ikari

  • Reply rcmaster207 March 31, 2018 at 7:32 am

    If you don't like the music, send it to me πŸ™‚

  • Reply Unknown Ceilings April 25, 2018 at 4:17 pm

    The song on the vinyl side is literally called Shinji Ikari oh my god wow

  • Reply thetasdik0007 April 29, 2018 at 11:36 am

    how to record something on the record side

  • Reply Cletus Spuckler April 30, 2018 at 9:44 pm

    To Techmoan ….and others who are intersted .
    Would work with a fully manual turntable , i own a Barthe Rotofluid SP turntable that is fully manual . Barthe was a french society based in Paris , they ever made a DJ professionnal turntable named Rotofluid Pro 5 , with a quick start basically based on a viscostatic clutch .

  • Reply IraQ Nid May 10, 2018 at 7:08 pm

    That screaming music sounds like 5 finger death punch πŸ‘ŠπŸ˜‰

  • Reply Bryan Francis May 31, 2018 at 6:45 am

    Justice released their album "Woman" like this in 2016 for a limited time. The full album was on the CD side and a radio edit of fire was on the vinyl side.

  • Reply Damian Bond June 2, 2018 at 11:08 pm

    Can you put the vinyl CD~r on a turntable and will it played the music?

  • Reply Biff McLargeHuge June 20, 2018 at 2:39 am

    2007?? DOA tech at its finest.

  • Reply Lee Bartholomew July 17, 2018 at 10:17 pm

    reminds me of both the DVD/BD combo discs and the hd-dvd/dvd combo discs. or…. the cd/dvd combo discs in which it had a warning about some players not being able to play the cd side. (never ran into one that couldn't play one, even very cheap cd players. Pretty much assume that warning was just to cover their asses in case it doesn't work. Course like DVD's and HD DVD's they still tended to crack in the middle. Blu rays do too but harder to actually do it unless netflix sends ones

  • Reply Alyssa Hannah August 12, 2018 at 10:11 pm

    Is the one you have still available? I absolutely love the music and I'd love to have a copy

  • Reply eduveloper August 17, 2018 at 8:52 pm

    During my holiday a spotted a little orange Ziphona grammophone player. Interestingly only one button and a CD-like slot to be seen (quite heavy though). I found out is a Ziphona A31 (http://www.rft-hifigeraete.de/63906.html).
    In the Speakeasy Cafe in Firenze (IT) I couldn't examine that object any further of course, did you come across Ziphona apparatus?

  • Reply Amaroq Starwind August 24, 2018 at 5:12 am

    If I were to bring it back, I'd completely cover the disc's label in grooves, and I'd use a combination of CX encoding and digilog mastering to improve the sound quality as much as possible.

  • Reply Strongnite - N.B. September 15, 2018 at 2:13 am

    well, atleast this video introduced me to a new band. thanks for that.

  • Reply Doomy Goomy September 25, 2018 at 3:05 am

    0:30 if played on a turntable it gives off a beeping noise

  • Reply Elliot Grey October 22, 2018 at 9:17 am

    3:17 "This really isn't my genre of music."

    me: πŸ”₯πŸ€˜πŸ’€πŸ€˜πŸ”₯

  • Reply catsoften October 24, 2018 at 11:42 pm

    Now we just need vinyl-video on one side and dvd on the other

  • Reply Patches33001 November 4, 2018 at 6:06 pm

    Those record looking CD's are my entire childhood. I still love them

  • Reply Ingwie Phoenix January 7, 2019 at 11:02 pm

    If you don't want that disc…I'd take it. Sounds rather interesting πŸ™‚

  • Reply Kyoji Kasshu January 10, 2019 at 3:00 am

    I remember those Verbatim "vinyl" CD-Rs. I had a pack of them once, and loaded up music on them. Don't really use CDs much anymore, though.

    Interestingly enough, the original Cowboy Bebop US DVD releases were in a similar vein, as the label side of each disc was made to look like a vinyl record as well. They didn't have the simulated grooves of the Verbatim CDs, though, nor did they attempt to print a groove pattern on the black section of the label.

  • Reply M Luminoth January 19, 2019 at 7:22 pm

    Why would I suspect evangelion nerds would be some of the only people to try this?

  • Reply NumanFanlfc January 26, 2019 at 3:35 pm

    just found this on ebay from the USA ….. cough cough … errr NO TA lol https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Fightstar-MINT-1st-ever-CD-Vinyl-Record-AUTOGRAPH-4-songs-Deathcar-99-Live/163497316261?hash=item2611330fa5:g:F58AAMXQjwVQ-46I:rk:2:pf:0

  • Reply Nenad Gvozdenovic January 30, 2019 at 9:02 am

    Please stop raping the CD format !!!! CD is NOT a vinyl , CD is CD !! CD format is deliberately destroyed by record companies because vinyl is hard to pirate….
    Vinyl replicas – fuck you .
    Hi-res – fuck you .
    Remastered CDs – fuck you .
    Remastered of remastered CDs – fuck you .
    Remastered of remastered of remastered CDs – fuck you .
    Do you really think that guys who first transfered master tapes to digital didn't know what they are doing ???? That EVERY ONE of them need a revised version of they "work" ??? BOLLOCKS !!
    If you are a TRUE digital lover you'll go for a FIRST PRESSED CDs…STOP ABUSING THE CD FORMAT !!!

  • Reply Benjamin Fuller February 18, 2019 at 6:49 am

    πŸ˜‰ I think mini blueray would be good as a portable media for cars and other places like what they did with cd back in the day and have them hold 10 to 15gb plenty for music in cars and I like the new intro πŸ˜‰

  • Reply ForrestBob March 22, 2019 at 4:54 am

    LOL'd after clicking "Show More".

  • Reply Nolberto Roa Pulido March 23, 2019 at 8:19 pm

    Trying to play the vinyl part
    Shinji! Get in the freaking… stylus?

  • Reply Derek williams March 25, 2019 at 2:51 pm

    Those verbatim CD-R's ,I 've used them to make mix CD's with.

  • Reply User Net April 2, 2019 at 8:50 am

    Try – Comparison of sound – the original vinyl 1964 mono, New vinyl 2001 and CD. Muddy Waters FOLK Singer. https://youtu.be/7g1sNO9JdCo

  • Reply Fletcher Lucas April 19, 2019 at 3:36 am

    I have a CD that my dad gave me that's like this, but it's a bootleg so the vinyl can't actually play

  • Reply K M July 26, 2019 at 7:38 pm

    Did not go into this expecting copious Evangelion references.

  • Reply Thriller Mike July 31, 2019 at 6:14 pm

    Could you please put this in one of your new videos now you have a record player that can go closer to the spindle

  • Reply Diego Rivera September 2, 2019 at 2:28 pm

    Do you plan on doing a video about the ELP LT-1XA ? Probably hard to find… maybe someone can lend you one? Keep up the good work!

  • Reply Bidyut Bhuyan October 8, 2019 at 8:09 am

    I have an album "Iced Earth – Dark Saga" that exactly looks like a vinyl record both sides but is a cd. Cheers from India πŸ‘πŸ½πŸ‘πŸ½

  • Reply Petromax Skavholm October 18, 2019 at 7:05 pm

    Note to self: Need to buy some Fightstar. Sounds killer!

  • Reply Øystein October 31, 2019 at 8:16 am

    I used to buy those and burn albums on them! They where brilliant πŸ˜›
    Now people rarely burn CDs but not many weeks ago I burned a CD from songs I purchased in WAV format. But that was on ordinary Verbatim CDs.

  • Reply ripsalsa November 1, 2019 at 10:33 am

    but wouldnt extra weight on the cause the motor to spin slower and not read the disc properly? i dont know if im right please correct if im wrong

  • Reply Punk Nerd November 29, 2019 at 9:28 am

    3:07 69 Lmao

  • Reply Joseph Palma December 21, 2019 at 10:40 pm

    so can i not record onto the vinyl side?

  • Reply Stephen Emmett January 1, 2020 at 8:11 pm

    One of the best pop punk songs of all time WAS indeed released as a Vinyl-Disc in the UK upon the track's reissue – it was "Misery Business" by Paramore.

  • Reply eddiehimself January 15, 2020 at 10:44 pm

    From the late 1990s to the mid 2000s, SME did a series of reissue CDs with a vinyl-style top label called The Vinyl Classics that look a lot like those CD-Rs you've got there. In fact I've got the original System of a Down album on one (by the way, System of a Down is another "shouty" band that you'll undoubtedly hate LOL).

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